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Best Way to Get Rid of Odors

Best Way to Get Rid of Odors

Like all things, there is a ‘best way’ to do just about anything. In this article, a former IAQ tester will share with you what I believe to be the ‘best way’ to get rid of odors.

The easiest (but worse for your health) way to get rid of odors is to mask them with chemicals. Products like Febreze or any other air freshener, according to the Environmental Work Group contain many cancer-causing chemicals. If you must mask the odor, use essential oils and do your lungs a favor.

The first step in your quest to get rid of odors is to properly clean the floors of any dust (mop, vacuum, etc) Once you get rid of dust, all you need is to run the HVAC system 24/7 with a MERV 11 furnace filter. I’ve blogged about that several times.

If you want to get rid of pet odors, you’re probably dealing with urine. You’ll need to rip out carpets and pads. Next, you’ll need to douce the urine stain areas with enzymes. Lastly, you’ll have to perform a one or two-day ozone shock treatment in the unoccupied structure. The best way to do that is one hour on, one hour off via a 24 hour 30-minute timer.

If you want to get rid of cooking or second-hand smoke odors, then you’ll need to clean off surfaces with a de-greaser, clean the carpets with a degreaser (or replace them) and then follow up with a one to four-day ozone shock treatment, on hour on and one hour off the whole time. This time, you’ll need to flush all of the byproducts of the oxidized chemicals (now tiny particles) out of the house via a negative pressure technique we preach. It involves opening all of the windows and doors and pointing a 20″ box fan outwards from the lowest window, the rest of the window sealed, to draw air in and force the air out via the box fan. If you don’t do this (and most ozone generator vendors only care about selling you and ozone generator, don’t care about your health, so they won’t tell you this) then those tiny particles will be breathed in deep into the lungs and like second-hand smoke, potentially cause problems for health. (humans and pets) So make sure to do this final step whenever you perform an ozone shock treatment to get rid of second-hand smoke.

Just remember, ozone is not for breathing! It’s only for use in unoccupied areas. Wait one hour after the ozone shock treatment before going back in and comply with all state and local regulations. If you have any questions, please give us a call.

Disclaimer: In the USA, the FDA has not approved ozone for medical use. If you have any questions about using ozone, please talk to your doctor or health professional. Ozone is not for breathing! Breathing high concentrations of ozone can harm your lungs (see EPA warning on ozone air purifiers) We do not sell ozone air purifiers. We only sell commercial ozone generators for use by Contractors (or homeowners acting as contractors) to ‘shock’ the air in unoccupied areas ONLY! Please use as directed for air shock treatments, and only if you feel you can competently follow instructions.

New Website Format: Please leave reviews – ask questions.

New Website Format: Please leave reviews – ask questions.

This new Forever Ozone website format lends itself for much better customer participation. We feel this is the best way for our company to preach the virtues of ozone moving forward. By giving our customers a platform to share their experiences with our ozone generators with the general public, we feel we can continue to reach more people without having to spend money on expensive advertising campaigns. After all, paid ads aren’t exactly known for their objective impartiality, lol.

So if you own one of our machines, Won’t you join us in this new venture and create a new account so that you can post reviews and join our community? We’d really appreciate it.

We have over 25,000 past customers over the past 9 years. People move, change phone numbers, emails address, etc so we don’t store that type of info. We don’t spam our customers. All we retain is your name and order info from our end. When you call, we can look up your order but we don’t know where you live, your phone number or your email address. We don’t need or care about those things. If you order something, we’ll get that info so no need to store it. The reason why you want to create a new account is that you’ll be part of the WordPress family. You’ll be able to comment on millions of blogs worldwide. Most importantly, you’ll be able to help us better explain how ozone works for our future customers.

It really is us against the International Corporate world. We need to rally together and share information, and this new Forever Ozone website format will help us do just that!

Revamped Forever Ozone Website!

Revamped Forever Ozone Website!

If things look different, they are. In October of 2019, Forever Ozone changed its website platform from Shopify to WordPress. Why?  Many reasons.  Shopify was slow. Their platform caused us to lose valuable ranking in the search engines after the latest Google update. Shopify doesn’t support easy product reviews, something we really loved about our previous service and about our new one.  Basically, WordPress allows for a better customer interaction and better integration with social media, customer questions, reviews, and comments. All of the things we feel will help us connect better with our customers moving forward. 

We hope our customers take a few minutes to offer their input and experience using our ozone generators. We also hope you offer your advice on what you found works best to get rid of odors, kill mites or mold, etc. Forever Ozone is a team effort! Please help us help others, sharing is caring after all!

 

Why Our Transformers are Best!

We invented our 10g transformers with a removable plate and plug-in power cord to solve several issues – problems with the Chinese designed transformers.

1) No red “hot” high voltage wires outside the transformer. If they touch or come loose, they become a fire and shock hazard. They also result in electricity loss vs having the wires internalized.
2) It’s hard to remove the ozone plates from the Chinese transformers.
3) It’s hard to re-wire the Chinese transformers.
The Chinese responded to our invention by creating a double-stacked transformer with non-removable ozone plates. It’s flawed, and it’s not safe. Here are the main problems:

1) They cement the red high voltage wires onto the ozone plates making them impossible to replace and a fire-shock hazard should they come loose.
2) The bottom of the transformer sits flush with the surface and builds up heat. If you run this for an hour or longer, it can burst into flames (gets very very hot) Our transformers feature a heat sink and face the fan. Stay super cool.
3) Air rushes past the ozone plates from the side from a weak 4″ fan. Bad design. Our units feature 9, 12, 20, or 24 metal fans that pivot to send the ozone towards the roof, a much better design.

The 4 columns are electrified with high voltage and can cause the plastic part to melt and even burst into flames if left unchecked.
I’ve had a couple of dozen people who tried these transformers and had a terrible experience call me to order our ozone generators. Several stated they caught on fire, one was even nice enough to send me a picture.

Dangers of Tap Water.

Why? RO filters develop bacteria pretty quickly (dark, wet place) To ensure clean water even after RO, you should ozonate it for about a minute per liter with our 1000 mg/h ozonators. Afterward, I put something called “Trace Minerals ConcenTrace” to replace the good electrolytes. I put it in a glass pitcher with a big smiley face I drew on the side and the words “love – good health.” Why? Structure the water with positive frequencies

Tap water contains is part of reclaimed toilet water. Sick, right? Environmental Work Group found sex hormones, pharma drugs, even Prozac in city tap water. Estrogen is troubling enough but anti-depressants? Yep. Click here to see what poisons they’ve found in your water. 

A Cheap Air Purifier Solution.

I got out of the air purifier business (sold air purifiers online as well as mold test kits, UVC in duct units, even nano tio2 liquid) because I realized that for dust, a MERV 11 filter is all you needed to take care of dust issues in a home. Most dust is in the 3-10 micron size, and a MERV 11 filter easily captures those particles thanks to an air handler’s high CFM air moving capability.

Besides learning that your HVAC system was your best air purifier option, I also found out that the most effective way to sanitize indoor air and all surfaces is with an ozone shock treatment. Sanitizing all surfaces and your indoor air with ozone also kills mites (and breaks down their feces – number one indoor air allergen). Well, that was it, I could no longer make money selling air purifiers. I need to feel good about what I sell – make people happy. 

Many customers have asked me about air purifiers over the years, some wonder if this machine or that machine is a good buy. I always say the same thing. ALL low CADR (clean air delivery rate) tabletop type air purifiers are a waste of money. I’ve blogged about it many times. However, what if you don’t have an HVAC system? Hmmmm. Well, I recently moved into a beach condo without an HVAC system myself, and that lead me to dig back into my bag of previously learned air cleaning tricks to create what I feel is the best cheap air purifier solution that we now offer on Foreverozone.com.

Being able to move a large amount of air is what is takes to effectively remove dust and mold from the air. We constantly kick up dust when we move around so being able to filter all of the air in a room 5-10 times an hour is what it takes to remove the allergens that constantly get kicked up as we move around. For the price, nothing moves more air than a 20″ box fan. (Good ones with a metal frame $22-$28) I like the Lasko brand myself. Metal frame, made in the USA, moves over 2400 cubic feet of air per minute. That takes care of the fan, what about the filter?

HEPA filters work, but the machines they’re in don’t move enough air. The exception is the Airpura brand. That 360-degree design brings in air from all angles and their 3″ HEPA filter works great. It moves enough air to get the job done. Tabletop air purifiers and small air purifiers? Total waste of money. Back to my choice of filter. If you don’t have an HVAC system that moves thousands of feet of air per minute, then the best solution is a 20″ box can and a MERV 11 furnace filter, our “cheap air purifier” solution. We add ozone, carbon, UVC, and Tio2 Mesh options, but the air moving and dust collection takes place with the box fan and MERV 11 filter. This combo will remove more dust (by volume) MUCH FASTER than any mid-range air purifier on the market. Having a high CADR (clean air delivery rate) is essential for removing dust, and while a box fan with a MERV 11 filter combo hasn’t been tested for CADR, this video does show that it has a very high clean air delivery rate. CADR is measured by CFM airflow rate x % efficiency at removing particles. While a HEPA filter can remove more particles than a MERV 11 filter, their low CFM airflow rate vs a 2400 CFM box fan still gives the dust removal title to our cheap air purifier solution. 

So here’s the deal. If you have an HVAC system, you’re good. All you need to do is run the system in the “ON” position 24/7 and then replace your MERV 11 filters once every 3 weeks or so. (they’ll turn dark gray / better them than your lungs!) However, if you don’t have an HVAC system, then I think our Forever Ozone Air Purifier Solutions offer the best “bang for your buck” in addressing any indoor air quality issue you might have. Dust. Mold. VOC’s, second-hand smoke, or all of the above. How? By attaching the carbon or MERV 11 filters to the 20″ box can and utilizing ozone shock treatments or UV – UVC oxidizers to the air, you can address any indoor air quality issue cheaply and probably more effectively than most expensive air purifiers on the market. TIP: I take the box fan/filter outside weekly and use a high-pressure blower (you can buy it in can form) to remove all of the dust the filter has collected during the week. During the week, when I vacuum, I suck dust right off the filter while the unit is still running. I think I can get this filter to last many months if I continue to do this. 

Clean air and clean water should be easy to obtain, but it isn’t. We need both to live healthy disease-free lives. The powers that be want to push ineffective, expensive solutions upon the masses while suppressing the amazing air sanitizing abilities of ozone. I think these air purifier solutions will out-perform the competition because it’s just a matter of CFM physics. You need to move a lot of air to filter out particles, and you need to utilize oxidizers to sanitize the air. The Bible says that the truth shall set you free. I agree. In this case, free of dirty air and free of wasting money on ineffective solutions in place of cheap, effective ones. 

Love Dogs but Not Dirty Dog Odors? We Have a Solution.

I had a nice lady in Newport Beach call today to see what I recommend for making her house smell like a fresh mountain meadow despite the fact it now smells like a barn because her kids aren’t properly cleaning their dogs. She has company coming this weekend and wants to find a quick solution. Here is a solution I shared with her and I know works because I’m using it myself now that I find myself living in a home with 2 dogs. 

First, I put a blanket that gets washed often on the couches so that they don’t absorb the plethora of bacteria their backsides harbor. Secondly, the floors now get swept and mopped every day. Thirdly, while the dogs are getting walked (for at least one hour a day) the house gets a 15-minute ozone shock treatment. (the ozone lingers for another 30-40 minutes) Lastly, I am using the ozone air purifier I recently added to our offering myself to keep the air smelling mountain fresh despite our dogs. I program it conservatively to turn on for 5 seconds every 3 minutes which is just enough ozone to make it smell like a fresh mountain meadow but not enough ozone to get above .002 ppm, well below the .01 ppm EPA guideline. If I cook fish, which I often do, I bump it up to 30 seconds every 3 minutes for an hour or so, then go back to the 5-second program. 

I know that there is a lot of controversy about breathing ozone, but the fact is that studies have found that breathing low levels of ozone is good for you. In Europe, doctors often tell their patients to take their kids with asthma to the mountains for the holidays to allow their lungs to heal with the elevated ozone levels (and smog-free air.) Breathing city air, smog, the stuff ozone breaks down (why there is a lot of ozone in the air when there is a lot of smog in the air) is harmful to the lungs. Breathing fresh clean pollution-free air with a little ozone, on the other hand, is great for the lungs. Our lungs can handle oxygen, and the simple fact is that we now breath 1/2 of the oxygen content we used to breathe thousands of years ago before we replaced everything green with concrete, buildings, and asphalt and even worse, allowed the Amazon rain forests to be burnt down. Now our air only has about 21% oxygen. Bumping up our oxygen uptake with a small amount of ozone isn’t bad for you, I believe it promotes good health, and the science I’ve read on the subject confirms my beliefs. Yes, for asthmatics and people with COPD or other lung issues, breathing elevated ozone levels is not advisable, and I don’t advise that. The simple fact, however, is that ozone is ‘self-regulating’ in the sense it tells you it you’re breathing too much by making you cough. If you cough around ozone, turn off the ozone machine or get out of the area! Simple as that. However, if you don’t cough with a small amount of ozone in the air, and it makes you feel good? Know what? It’s promoting good health. 

Another solution I also use it to clean my pets backside with ozone water after they do a #2. I do this several times a day. They don’t seem to mind it, I think they like it and appreciate my Mike’s Magic Butt Cleaning Service. (Franchise opportunities available, lol) How is this done? I just bubble ozone into a 16 oz of water for five minutes with our 1g ozone generator, I then pour the highly ozonated water into the ozone proof sprayer we sell and spray away with a fine mist right where the sun don’t shine on my kid’s dogs. I do this at least one time a day before they get in bed with my kids. (disgusting, I know, but they insist) I like to do have it done to the dogs after they go #2, but then again, I’m a little OCD about bacteria. Call me weird, I don’t care. I think ozone is why I haven’t aged much or been sick in 10 years. 

Airborne viruses, molds, fungus, bacteria, chemtrails, pollution, etc don’t like it when you introduce a small amount of ozone into the air. So if you love your dogs, but want your home smelling clean, fresh, with not even a hint of dirty dog, consider our fresh clean air solution. (or the tush cleaning solution, lol)  

Killing Mold with Ozone.

If your home smells musty, you have mold. The first thing you should do is invest in a de-humidifier.  I like the ones that can attach to a hose (that is connected to a drain) so that you don’t have to constantly change a bucket.  The second thing you should do is utilize ozone shock treatments to kill surface molds as well as airborne mold spores. 

SURFACE MOLD?  OZONE SHOCK TREATMENT NEEDED

If you have surface mold, the first thing you should probably do is test to make sure it’s not the toxic variety.  If it is, then you need to contact your insurance company and if you’re a renter, an attorney. Toxic mold is nothing to blow-off. The implications can be deadly. 

If you have regular mold, and your place smells musty, then you should go on the offensive.  Your battle plan should look like this:  1) Get a de-humidifier and get the humidity level to 30% or lower. 2) Perform several ozone shock treatments to kill the airborne mold spores and kill any surface molds. This will also kill the dust mites and neutralize their feces (major indoor air allergen).  3) Moving forward, perform daily ozone shock treatments of one hour when nobody is home. 4) Consider getting an in-duct UVC system for your HVAC system.  

WHY FOREVER OZONE GENERATORS?

Our “cost per milligram of ozone” is the lowest yet we have the best warranty (lifetime) and service (we answer the phone).  This is important because you need a lot of ozone power, at least 30,000 mg/h to treat a 1500 or so square foot home with 50% humidity levels, and you need to be able to move a lot of air.  Why? Ozone production is reduced by 50% at 50% humidity.  Professionals that get paid thousands of dollars to do ozone shock treatments come in with 2 times that, or 60,000 mg/h, but that’s because they want to make sure the job is done right the first time, and time is of the essence.

Traditional ozone generators only have a 100 CFM fan. That’s not enough to “churn” the air and create untra high concentrations of ozone.  Ozone generators convert oxygen in the air into ozone, and without a high CFM fan, they just create an ozone cloud near the unit.   Our 30,000 ($219),  50,000 ($329) or 80,000 mg/h ($579) commercial ozone generator kits feature 3000-4000 CFM commercial metal blade fans that can blast high concentrations of ozone towards the roof. Since ozone is heavier than air, the air near the roof will be forced down to ground level where it will quickly be ozonated by our 3 to 8 ozone generator fan kits.  Using traditional ozone generators will freshen the air, but if you want to kill mold like a pro, you need professional ozone shock treatment equipment, and Forever Ozone has proprietary equipment that is at the top of the class at creating high ozone concentrations fast.

Best Way to Use Ozone Generators to Remove Second Hand Smoke Odors.

Like with anything, there is always a “best way” to do something, and in this case, there is a “best way” to perform an ozone shock treatment to get rid of second-hand smoke odors. I’ll explain how.

First, you need two times the amount of ozone you normally use to get rid of odors like food odors, musty smells, old people smell, etc. That means 2000 milligrams per 100 square feet, and that’s if you use our Cool-Tec units that stay cool. Ozone generators that have air pass over both sides of the plate at the same time don’t get properly cooled and the ozone plates run hot, over 100 degrees. At those temperatures, ozone production is reduced around 50%. Secondly, you need to make sure the humidity level is under 30%. If not, use a dehumidifier. Thirdly, you need to make sure the temperature is under 78 degrees, if not, turn on the AC. Why? At 50% humidity, ozone production is reduced by 50%. At 90 degrees, ozone production is reduced by 30%. If you don’t mind the temperature and humidity issue and you use a poorly designed ozone generator, you’ll need more like 5000 mg/h per 100 feet.

Next, the actual protocol to get the job of removing second-hand smoke damage done right, per years of experience in the remediation industry. First, don’t even think of painting over smoke damage. It will still seep through. What about the carpets? Carpets are nasty, especially if someone smoked or had pets. Tile is easier to clean, or hardwood floors, so get rid of the carpets, especially in a rental.
The first step is to run the initial ozone shock treatment. This should be a 6 to 8-hour shock treatment with one hour on, one hour off. Ozone lingers for 40 minutes so no need to run your generator constantly. Giving it time to cool down between run times prolongs the life of the transformers and gives you a better shock treatment because heat destroys ozone. After that initial shock treatment, wipe down all surfaces and walls with a degreaser to get rid of the tar and nicotine from the smoke damage. You know, that dull yellow haze that films the walls and cabinets? Ozone will get rid of the odor but not that funky stuff. That needs to be removed with a towel dipped in dishwashing soap, tied to the end of a mop stick, and continuously being changed or cleaned. That’s the hardest part of the job by the way.

The next step is to do ozone shock treatments for three or four more days, at least 12 hours in duration, at cold temperatures followed by a heating period. The heating up period allows for smoke damage that has penetrated deep into substrates to “off-gas” i.e. come to the surface so that ozone can break the hydrogen bonds and break those chemicals down. There are over 1000 chemicals in second-hand smoke. Most cause cancer and respiratory issues. If you live in a house that was smoked in, my guess is you’re getting yearly respiratory illnesses like bronchitis and your kids may develop asthma, even if nobody is currently smoking in your home. The damage that was done will continue to cause illness for many, many years until someone remediates the smoke damage.

The last step is to draw all of the air out of the house after an ozone shock treatment to remediate smoke damage. This part is a bit of a pain, but how a professional with IAQ training will do the job. Why? When you use ozone to get rid of second-hand smoke damage, you create tiny particulate that is harmful to your lungs and immune system. Not as bad as second-hand smoke, but still harmful. You need to AIR OUT THE HOUSE after each ozone shock treatment! This is best done by opening up all of the windows in the house, preferably early in the morning, and using a 20″ box fan placed facing outward in one of the windows to blow the remnants of your ozone shock treatment out (lowest window in the house). Place a piece of cardboard above the box fan so that it creates a negative pressure environment that will suck air in from outside via the open windows, bringing in the fresh air and draw out the fine particulate.
Now, if after you do that, you want to paint it? Knock yourself out. At least now that new paint won’t wreak of second-hand smoke when temperatures start to warm up!
This is, I guarantee, the only way to reverse second-hand smoke damage from a structure. You can try to paint over smoke damage, but the smoke damage will leach into the paint, even Killz paint, and all of those cancer-causing chemicals will still make you or your future tenants sick! They will leach through and harm the future occupants, guaranteed, and you (the owner) may find yourself legally liable if they suffer permanent lung damage, and guess what? They will. That’s what second-hand smoke damage does, harm people. By now, everyone should know that.
If your lungs were harmed by moving into a place that previously suffered second-hand smoke damage or has/had mold damage, you may want to consult with a lawyer and your insurance company to make yourself whole and to fix the problem right. Why do you think Insurance companies are happy to pay ServePro (they have a contract with insurance companies) thousands of dollars to run ozone generators in structures with second-hand smoke damage? Because they know the financial liability that looms if they don’t. They’re in the business of risk management, and liability mitigation. They know that harming a kid’s lungs for life can cost them hundreds of thousands or millions of dollars, and they know that there are case precedents to support that type of action. Negligence is no excuse. Second-hand smoke is known, and medically established that it causes serious harm to the lungs, especially the lungs of little ones or older folks, and it can create life long asthma and even lung cancer. How much is that worth? I don’t know. Millions perhaps if that were my kid.

Sadly, the HVAC industry spends a lot of time poo-pooing ozone shock treatments instead of ineffective HEPA filters or carbon filters that do NOTHING to remove chemicals from walls, cabinets, floors and the roof. Yes, ozone gas is not for breathing. Yes, you need to flush the area with fresh air afterward. And yes, ozone is the only way to permanently remediate second-hand smoke damage from a home. Period.
P.S. Lawyers also love to sue ozone generator companies as well because ozone gas, when inhaled, can cause lung damage. For this reason, you must place a sign on the front door that says “Warning, Ozone Shock Treatment in Progress. Stay Out” so that if a burglar breaks in and harms their lungs with ozone, they can’t sue you. Most often, it will be a Real Estate agent and his clients, from past cases where a warning sign was not placed. We don’t get sued because our machines are not air purifiers, they are only to be used in unoccupied spaces and used by contractors or homeowners acting as contractors to do it themselves. That means they use common sense precautions and use our equipment as directed, that includes using them with fans, not placing them near curtains, on the carpet, etc. (per our instructions.) We live in a litigious society, so one has to be careful to protect themselves.

Ozone Generators for Odor Removal. What is Needed?

What is needed is a lot more “ozone power” than what you get from the typical Chinese made ozone generator, the type you find on Amazon and eBay. Here is why.

1) Heat destroys ozone. The air glides over both sides of the ozone plates in those types of ozone generators at the same time, not creating the air friction needed to properly cool the ozone plate! A test with a heat sensor reveals that those ozone plates get up to 140 degrees. At those temperatures, the ozone plates hardly creates any ozone, about 10-20% of what they are rated to create.

2) Humidity in the air reduces the amount of ozone that can be created with corona discharge ozone generators. The UV lamp ozone generators (very expensive, some over $2000) can produce pure ozone with elevated humidity levels, but a 50% humidity level will reduce the amount of ozone that can be created by 50%. If the humidity is 70%, you get a 70% reduction, so on and so forth.

When you plug those two factors into a formula on how much ozone you need to create high enough ozone concentrations to permanently reverse second-hand smoke damage, kill mold, kill mites, etc, you find that one Chinese made ozone generator will only freshen the air, it won’t permanently get rid of odors, kill mold, kill mites, or basically do the job it was intended to do.

What is needed to get the job done right? That depends on the humidity level. Let’s say your structure is 1200 square feet and the humidity levels in your home are 50%. You need at least 24,000 milligrams of ozone per hour to create the high parts per million of ozone power to get the job done right. If you have a 2000 square foot structure with 25% humidity, you can get buy with 30,000 milligrams as well, so you see, the humidity plays a large role in determining how much ozone power you will need. We recommend using dehumidifiers to lower the humidity, and to lower the temperature as low as possible during the ozone shock treatment. We also recommend using negative pressure to draw fresh air in after the ozone shock treatment to flush out the treated air and bring in fresh air by opening windows and using a strong fan to force air out, with the help of a tarp and some duct tape.

Getting professional results with an ozone shock treatment is more than just buying a cheap ozone generator and moving it around. You need to take into consideration the humidity levels and buy enough ozone power to get the job done right, and you need to bring in fresh air after the ozone shock treatment, not just let the ozonated air to linger. You won’t hear that anywhere but here, but it’s the truth, and the truth shall set you free (of the problems associated with toxic indoor air, in this case)